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Iraq
Nov 13, 2003 15:28:06 GMT -5
Post by Valyn on Nov 13, 2003 15:28:06 GMT -5
Our Congressman came to my school today and did a talk for my History class on the Iraq situation. I'm kind of curious as to what other people think about it. Opinions?
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Iraq
Nov 13, 2003 17:32:02 GMT -5
Post by Omega on Nov 13, 2003 17:32:02 GMT -5
I haven't heard much recently, but I get the feeling that things in Iraq aren't going as well as they'd like us to think. While the casualties are still low in comparison to the gulf war, they're still addding up. I also think that this deal with Private Jessica Lynch is beginning to feel more like a media trick, to make a hero to keep up support. The way I see it, getting lost, attacked, and captured isn't so heroic, and the spec. ops. guys that rescued them weren't heros, it was an easy op. So yeah, it looks like there is an attempt to divert attention from Iraq, and I smell the stench of election politics in the air. I just hope this action in Iraq remains a mission to help reform their gov't and not more of a political manuver for the Presidency.
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Iraq
Nov 16, 2003 20:18:10 GMT -5
Post by HeraldMage on Nov 16, 2003 20:18:10 GMT -5
That's been my sense too. Despite the complaints about a 'liberal media,' I think the Iraq situation can be easily summed up in one word: bad. There isn't a good track record for governments set up by invading forces: look what happened to the Western-appointed Shah in Iran. There's very little emerging structure apparent in Iraq, and more and more Americans dying almost every day.
And the Lynch thing is crazy. I think it's great that she was rescued, but the fact is that she wasn't much of a prisoner of war. If anything, the Iraqis treated her pretty well -- she was given treatment that was extremely good by their standards (by ours, it wasn't great, but their hospitals are not nearly as sanitary and well-kept as ours). The doctors were basically on our side, or at the very least did not at all oppose the troops that came in to get her.
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Iraq
Nov 29, 2003 11:32:21 GMT -5
Post by Valyn on Nov 29, 2003 11:32:21 GMT -5
On the other hand, she got the shit beaten out of her when she was captured. How many broken bones did she have? Generally, I agree on the war situation. Saddam was a pretty horrible person, but it wasn't our responsibility to unseat him. Bush seems to enjoy kicking over foreign governments. Chirac should be worried.
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Iraq
Nov 30, 2003 4:09:17 GMT -5
Post by Omega on Nov 30, 2003 4:09:17 GMT -5
Lol, look out France! It's probably more political than he enjoys conflict. Saddam though, was probably personal, get him for dad and all.
Just cause she was hurt doesn't make her a hero in the least. There were other unit members that were injured, even killed, and she was treated pretty well as far as Iraqi captives go. Nothing about what happend to her even remotely suggests hero.
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Iraq
Dec 2, 2003 16:08:20 GMT -5
Post by HeraldMage on Dec 2, 2003 16:08:20 GMT -5
Yeah... There's this thing I don't understand that every soldier is automatically a hero, even if they died in a plane crash with another US plane... That makes them heroes how
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Iraq
Dec 3, 2003 6:27:15 GMT -5
Post by Omega on Dec 3, 2003 6:27:15 GMT -5
Yeah, to remember them for their service is one thing, but to go as far as to bastardize the word hero by applying it to everyone, that just seems to tarnish their memory to me.
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Iraq
Dec 6, 2003 12:44:31 GMT -5
Post by HeraldMage on Dec 6, 2003 12:44:31 GMT -5
I definitely agree. Heroes are people who do something above and beyond the call of duty -- crashing into one of our helicopters is definitely not heroic. It's a tragedy, and I do not intend to dishonor or disrespect the dead (although it's not the dead who care, it's the living they leave behind) but there's hero and then there's not.
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Iraq
Dec 23, 2003 10:12:32 GMT -5
Post by Valyn on Dec 23, 2003 10:12:32 GMT -5
Yeah, although it's probably pretty hard for the families... 'Well, ma'am, your son went to Iraq, and I'm sorry to say he's dead, but he didn't even see any action ... he collided with another of our planes'
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Iraq
Dec 25, 2003 23:31:59 GMT -5
Post by HeraldMage on Dec 25, 2003 23:31:59 GMT -5
Mm, yeah, that would suck, but still....
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Iraq
Feb 10, 2004 20:33:18 GMT -5
Post by Valyn on Feb 10, 2004 20:33:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. Heroism should be reserved for something above and beyond the call of duty...
Anyway, my biggest attitude about the war is that yes, Saddam was a pretty nasty guy, but it's not our job to decide who's a good leader and who isn't, then depose the ones we don't like. There's plenty of people who hate Bush, but I don't see anyone proposing to liberate America from him...
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